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NutrabolicsJon Wages War with Dinoiii

November 20, 2007
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  MAN Blue Print Research… 11-15-2007 10:04 PM NutrabolicsJon. I disapprove.

Someone’s feelings were hurt from our now classic wars waged on the Decanoate Esters.  While he has nothing better to do than "neg" me (as if this has significant impact on my life), the fact remains - scientific backing versus none means quite a bit.

I’ll see your "neg" and raise you a war you will never win Jon, this I assure you!

 

D_

Visit the “Ask Dr. Houser” subforum at Lean Bulk.

November 9, 2007

Follow my posts, read the CU, think you have seen it all?

See what happens when I’m put in charge of my own subforum:

http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/ask-dr-houser-47/index.html

"Clinical Underground News" sub-subforum 

"PCT: A Clinician’s View" sub-subforum

"BodyOpus: Reloaded" sub-subforum

"Articles" sub-subforum

 

To all of you, thanks for the continued support.

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The Clinical Underground - Volume I, Issue 2 released later today!

August 10, 2007

 

Find out what over 23,000 active subscribers have been talking about with the release of the second issue of The Clinical Underground later today (Aug 10, 2007).  The Table of Contents for the newsletter in sneak-peak fashion are seen below:

 The Prescription Pad
July Poll Results: To CEE or not to CEE
August Poll:  BCAAs on Trial
Formestane Expose
4-OHAD / 6-Bromo Experiment
Bulk Powders Prudent Cut Cycle (PCC)
Dinoiii-Approved Review: I3C
Human Performance Labs:  Ancillary Circuits
Dirty Article Series
What’s Happening @ LeanBulk.com
The Dr. Houser Library
Company & Website Launches
Magazine Madness
Dr. Houser’s 2007 Industry Calendar
Q&A
N.E.R.D. Defined
In The Next Issue
 

Enjoy this issue and keep up-to-date on exciting Clinical Underground News in the “Ask Dr. Houser” Subforum at www.leanbulk.com/forum

 

D_

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IFFI QUAD Update

August 4, 2007

Many have asked what has happened to the hype of what the IFFI Quad was supposed to be.  Well, the answer is simple…since the evolution of The Clinical Underground (CU), I have been completely overwhelmed with the response and putting out at least 4-5 NEW articles in the CU each month takes time.  Alongside this, the introduction of my website is scheduled for Septemeber 1st (logo and site information provided in edition 2 of the CU available next Friday)!

When things slow down after summer, the IFFI Quad will be back up and running!

 

Thanks for the continued support…

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The Clinical Underground Hits Record High Subscriber Number!!!

July 21, 2007

To date, the newsletter available free to those that send a blank "SUBSCRIBE" email to askdinoiii@hotmail.com has reached all time high levels with nearly 20,000 subscribers to date.  What I had intended an "underground" piece has taken on completely new meaning with this many subscribers.

With an anticipated August 10th Official Release Date for Issue 2 featuring articles on Formestane, BCAAs, and Indole-3-Carbinol…that number looks to increase steadily.  Keep posted here for further updates. 

I have been completely overwhelmed by the response and thank everyone for their support!

Thanks again!

D_

 

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The Clinical Underground Arrives!!!

July 8, 2007

July 4, 2007 marked the release of Volume I, Issue 1 of the Clinical Underground (CU) sent to 12,573 people to date that sent a blank subscribe message to askdinoiii@hotmail.com.  For those that are unaware, the following was a list of the Table of Contents for Issue I:

Table of Contents
Letter from Dr. Houser:  Welcome Address 

Poll:  To CEE or not to CEE

MAN Scorch/Ephedrine Prudent Cut Cycle (PCC)  with Review of Ephedra Trials

Beta-alanine Dosing Parameters Revisited

Dinoiii-Approved Review:  CoQ10

Human Performance Labs:  Specialization Insanity - LEGS

Dr. Houser Joins LeanBulk.com!

The Dr. Houser Library

Company & Website Launches

Magazine Madness

Q&A

IFFI QUAD  (introduced here on bb.com)

1st-Ever IFFI Induction Ceremony (introduced here on bb.com)

Thus far, it has been an overall success story.  This issue will be available all month until the release of issue 2.

Thanks to all for their continued support.

D_

Dinoiii-Approved Reviews

June 26, 2007

 

Read them first in the Underground!

 

To subscribe:  send message entitled "SUBSCRIBE" to askdinoiii@hotmail.com to be placed on list to recieve this monthly newsletter filled with industry insider information, contests, clinical trial opportunities, unpublished articles, and much more…

 

July issue t-minus less than one week to go…

 

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“Dirty” Articles

June 21, 2007

As a continuation of yesterday’s post…it is imperative to keep the hype-train alive…

 

So, just what is a "dirty" article?

 

The Eve of the newest underground newsletter is upon us.

 

Sign Up now: send "subscribe" email to askdinoiii@hotmail.com

 

 

 

 

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Newsletter Coming!!!

June 20, 2007

With the upcoming company launches, new books, magazine articles, clinical trials, industry insider information….it has been asked by enough of you here at bb.com and at DA to support a newsletter marking some of these insider ideology as they happen.  More detail will be forthcoming in the upcoming days about this release.

Initial plans include a monthly publication with the first to drop on and/or around July 1, 2007. 

 

If you’d like to be placed on the Newsletter List, send an email to askdinoiii@hotmail.com

 

Thank you again for your continued support.

 

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Is Caffeine Worthless in Athletes?

June 19, 2007

Author’s Note:  I put this study up on the "Literature Review" section of the MAN-UP forum over a month ago and thought it would be a good addition to the bb.com collection seeing how commonplace it is in sports supplements today.

We love our caffeine and it’s indicative by the copious tallies of supplements/ready-to-drinks/pre-workout drinks, et al. that fly off the shelves monthly.  But how is this aiding your physique/athletic goals?

 

J Strength Cond Res. 2006 Nov;20(4):751-5.

Effects of eight weeks of caffeine supplementation and endurance training on aerobic fitness and body composition.

Malek MH, Housh TJ, Coburn JW, Beck TW, Schmidt RJ, Housh DJ, Johnson GO.
University of Nebraska-Lincoln Human Performance Laboratory, Department of Nutrition and Health Sciences, Lincoln, NE 68583, USA. mmalek@unlserve.unl.edu

The purpose of this study was to examine the effects of daily administration of a supplement that contained caffeine in conjunction with 8 weeks of aerobic training on VO(2)peak, time to running exhaustion at 90% VO(2)peak, body weight, and body composition. Thirty-six college students (14 men and 22 women; mean +/- SD, age 22.4 +/- 2.9 years) volunteered for this investigation and were randomized into either a placebo (n = 18 ) or supplement group (n = 18 ). The subjects ingested 1 dose (3 pills = 201 mg of caffeine) of the placebo or supplement per day during the study period. In addition, the subjects performed treadmill running for 45 minutes at 75% of the heart rate at VO(2)peak, three times per week for 8 weeks. All subjects were tested pretraining and posttraining for VO(2)peak, time to running exhaustion (TRE) at 90% VO(2)peak, body weight (BW), percentage body fat (%FAT), fat weight (FW), and fat-free weight (FFW). The results indicated that there were equivalent training-induced increases (p < 0.05) in VO(2)peak and TRE for the supplement and placebo groups, but no changes (p > 0.05) in BW, %FAT, FW, or FFW for either group. These findings indicated that chronic use of the caffeine-containing supplement in the present study, in conjunction with aerobic training, provided no ergogenic effects as measured by VO(2)peak and TRE, and the supplement was of no benefit for altering body weight or body composition.

PMID: 17149989 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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Dinoiii and Andro get certified!!!

June 19, 2007

So, while in Vegas at the International Society of Sports Nutrition (ISSN) Conference this past week, I told you guys that me and Shawn would be taking an exam that would offer me the connotation of being a “Certified Sports Nutritionist” for all intensive purposes…this was JUST Step One - more to come on what I mean by this. The ISSN posted their passing rates and guys the exam was pretty tough with a passing rate of UNDER 50%, and they say this is a MORE CHALLENGING EXAM than even the CSCS…so it is pretty big. The full announcement from the ISSN website:

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Congratulations on passing the CISSN Exam - Las Vegas, NV Ivonne Berkowitz, Luis Bracamonte, Raymond Burigo, Bradley Cordero, Hghirp Dinh, Bindee Eberle, Patrick Finley, Julie Formica, Erica Goldstein, Patrice Hickey, Dana Houser , Ralf Jaeger, Magdalena Lewy, Rob Schwartz, Karen Todd, Shawn Wells.

 

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ISSN Conference in Las Vegas

June 4, 2007

With the forthcoming scheduled series of presentations from the Flamingo Hotel in Las Vegas (june 10-12) that will surely re-shape sports nutrition in the future, this year’s ISSN Conference actually holds a little something special happening behind-the-scenes.  I will keep you up-to-date here as time progresses…just keep your eyes peeled.

 

t-minus 5 days…

 

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DHEA is of NO use to the average non-aged male! Part III

May 31, 2007

ABSTRACT AFFIRMATION – THE OPENING SET
Author’s Note:  With the release of the first couple parts to this series, young males everywhere have joined one of two groups – those who triumphantly allow their DHEA to reach their garbage can or their granddads or, alternatively, the group that has united against me and sent death threats while calling my mother names.   

In any event, the truth hurts and DHEA remains worthless for the non-aged male when the dust settles.  We will further explore this topic in a bit more depth citing specific research examples of DHEAs failure during times males like to employ this because the local internet “guru” told ‘em so!
 

One research group combined the most commonly employed PCT anti-estrogen (SERM), tamoxifen in combination with DHEA administration to find that the DHEA negated effects of the tamoxifen.  My newfound hate-driven brethren who are aligning themselves as pro-DHEA are quick to point out that tamoxifen is pro-estrogenic in certain places while antagonistic in others and these studies were done in females and breast cancer patients to boot (yes, I have read the hate mail affectionately).  Well, I can’t blame them for trying.
 

See, the point is that this suggests negating effects of a purported anti-estrogen at the level of the ER in breast tissue.  This contradicts it and while no you cannot suggest that breast cancer equals gyno, negation of effects at what we are trying to prevent gyno with doesn’t make much sense to me, but alas I digress.
 

Without further adieu in the world where everyone loves abstracts…
 

[1] Am J Surg. 2003 May;185(5):411-5.  

The effect of high dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate levels on tamoxifen blockade and breast cancer progression.
Calhoun K, Pommier R, Cheek J, Fletcher W, Toth-Fejel S.
Oregon Health & Science University, Division of Surgical Oncology, 3181 SW Sam Jackson Park Rd. L223A, Portland, OR 97201, USA. 

 

BACKGROUND: We investigated the stimulatory potential of dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEA-S) on tamoxifen-treated cells and assessed its effect on cancer progression in the adjuvant setting. METHODS: Mean serial serum levels of sex hormones from 44 patients receiving tamoxifen were correlated with follow-up status. T-47D (ER+/PR+) and HCC1937 (ER-/PR-) breast cancer cells were pretreated with 100 microM anastrozole, with or without tamoxifen, and stimulated with 22.8 microM DHEA-S. Rapid colorimetric assays allowed calculation of growth percent change. RESULTS: Clinically, development of metastatic disease correlated only with > or =90 microg/dL DHEA-S (P = 0.005). In vitro, T-47D cells stimulated with DHEA-S after anastrozole showed 35% increased growth. Addition of 0.01 nM tamoxifen demonstrated -7% inhibition. Increasing the DHEA-S/tamoxifen ratio reversed suppression to +25%. CONCLUSIONS: DHEA-S > or =90 microg/dL is a risk factor for recurrence in the adjuvant setting. In vitro, although tamoxifen inhibits cell growth at high doses it can be circumvented by DHEA-S. These results indicate that DHEA-S contributes to tamoxifen resistance and disease progression.

PMID: 12727558 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 
 

[2] Arch Surg. 2003 Aug;138(8):879-83.
 

 Dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate causes proliferation of estrogen receptor-positive breast cancer cells despite treatment with fulvestrant.
Calhoun KE, Pommier RF, Muller P, Fletcher WS, Toth-Fejel S.
Department of General Surgery, Oregon Health and Sciences University, Portland, OR 97201, USA.  

HYPOTHESIS: Dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEA-S) causes a proliferation of estrogen receptor (ER)-positive breast cancer cells, even with tamoxifen citrate blockade. The ER antagonist ICI 182780 (fulvestrant) will more effectively stop the proliferative effect of DHEA-S on breast cancer cells. DESIGN: Examination of in vitro breast cancer cell growth in the presence of fulvestrant and DHEA-S. SETTING: Surgical oncology research laboratory. INTERVENTIONS: The ER-positive and ER-negative breast cancer cells were pretreated with fulvestrant and stimulated with 900 microg/dL (22.8 micromol/L) of DHEA-S. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Assays using 3-(4,5-dimethylthiazol-2-yl)-2,5-diphenyltet
razolium bromide, thiazolyl blue, were performed on the third, fifth, and seventh days poststimulation and permitted the calculation of growth percent change. RESULTS: The ER-positive and progesterone receptor-positive cells demonstrated universal proliferation of 107% by day 7 when treated with fulvestrant, regardless of the dose. The ER-negative and progesterone receptor-negative cells demonstrated growth inhibition. CONCLUSIONS: The DHEA-S circumvented fulvestrant inhibition and caused ER-positive breast cancer cell growth.

 

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Until Next time….
 

D_

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DHEA is of NO use to the average non-aged male! Part II

May 22, 2007
Author’s Note:  I am going to do this a tad out of order from its original context to offer a Q&A to follow.  Remember that this was in response to the significant outcry of DHEA users everywhere - sucks to figure in realization, and I understand this.  It’s usually imperative to not kill the messenger as the infamous “they” would like you to believe…let’s make them proud on this one, shall we?
Let’s review the literature rather than get into abstract wars becuase that is what other forums do and I would encourage us to be different for a moment.
Reviewing the literature on what we have already discussed and what you and I seem to agree on:

[1] DHEA taken as a supplement gets converted to androgens and estrogens in a gender-specific way.

a. women: increase androgens, NO sig. increase estrogens
b. men: increase estrogens, NO sig. increase androgens (essentially the opposite)

[2] Erectile dysfunction research: some people are speculated to have low DHEA and the sulfate ester (DHEA-S) levels to begin and thereby contributing to erectile dysfunction. If there is organic rationale (i.e. - low DHEA to begin), there is some evidence to support improvement (but it will only make the 2-minute man, say the 3-minute wonder…is this great considering other evidence?)…

Other erectile dysfunction populations have shown mixed review:
a. ED + Hypertensive: some benefit
b. ED + Diabetes: NO benefit
c. ED + Normal DHEA levels: NO benefit from preliminaries

* in NONE of the ED cases did Testosterone increase!!! (and this is despite DHEA administration and in some instances as described marginal difference in ED positive exchange)

[3] Side effects are sometimes not that great from tox studies for something that may give us marginal benefit (say increased wood or what have you):

a. insomnia
b. hepatic dysfunction (can we say NO to those using C17 alkylated; and then combine it with tamox, another hepatotoxic…Good God, what are “authorities” thinking?)
c. insulin resistance (yeah this is great for those seeking body comp change; more in a minute)
d. hair loss
e. hypertension
f. abdominal pain (though suggested in case report, the rationale was left at spontaneous association and could not be cause-effect linked, but MUST be noted when talking completion’s sake)
g. mania - 3 cases to date for people with no history of mania or bipolar
h. women - duh? androgenic sides have been reported

[4] Research mixed on cancer growth (some pro-cancer, one study has yielded regression of tumor, but admittedly may be specific to the tumor type and these are non-ER(+) tumors).

[5] DHEA continues to lower HDL levels AND increases levels of macrophage foam cells contributing to the atherosclerotic environment (NOT NEEDED in a time of recovery like PCT).

[6] Insulin Reistance is well-documented and I would be hard-press to suggest this good for anyone looking for optimal body comp. Could you imagine coming away from a cycle and making yourself potentially insulin-resistant? I wouldn’t recommend anyone in their right mind trying it to be honest.

[7] Now, I want to make a comment on how it can be conceived “good” for some steroidal AIs. DHEA inhibits cytochrome P450 3A4, which could theoretically heighten the effect of the AI through this mechanism…however, I MUST note that we only have documentation for this mechanism with concurrent use of triazolam, so it is suspect whether this would work, however given all the other effects and namely the increases in estrogens…I am inclined to suggest that you still NOT use it.

DHEA stinks and always has - I think I have offered up adequate debate, but hey I will offer you attempt to combat my rationale…and I eagerly await continued discussion.  Until next time…

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DHEA is of NO use to the average non-aged male! PART I

May 10, 2007

Author’s Note:  We have had sincere discussions on DHEA use in the Post-cycle realm and otherwise over on DA in on-going debates but wanted to open this up over here.  This post was therefore inspired by those interactions…my thoughts are summarized in the opening conglomerate below though this will be a multi-part addition over here on bb.com to get them all copied in here.  Some questions/comments/concerns from other board members have also been included for completion’s sake to allow for an easier read.

 

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Question:  How would one dose DHEA at max does and what type of gains should be expected? How long can 1 run it? etc etc?

dinoiii’s retort: 

I thought I had time-warped back to the late 80’s/early 90’s.

Hmmmmmm….I really can’t believe people are using this outside of the anti-aging realm. For those that are trying to combat age-related decline, it has likely some benefit.

Early research reports that muscle mass is NOT increased when adding DHEA supplements to compensate, however some small uncontrolled studies suggest otherwise. There may be some benefit in cases of adrenal insufficiency, but those too have been poorly controlled. I don’t like too much supplemental DHEA myself - PERIOD.

Based on data from studies in humans, DHEA may also increase blood sugar levels. In post-menopausal women, DHEA (1600 mg orally for 28 days alone) has been shown to cause INSULIN RESISTANCE and while this hasn’t adequately been tested in regular test subjects, the blood-sugar raising properties alone disuade me from recommending it in conjunction with the post-menopausal data.

Lab studies actually suggest that DHEA use may contribute to TaMOXIFEN RESISTANCE in breast cancer and one could easily extrapolate the same data for those that wonderfully execute suggestion that DHEA belongs in a PCT regime which it DOES NOT…as I have said for years…DHEA IS TOO FAR UPSTREAM.

Bottom Line…dinoiii does NOT think male bbers should use DHEA and in PCT:ACV, I actually suggested that I think DHEA should BE REMOVED FROM THE MARKET and it is unfortunate it didn’t get banned in 2004.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news all the time though, for real.

D_

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Question:  Then how do you explain this?
Patent summary abstract:
http://www.google.com/patents?hl=en&…17-trione+DHEA

Patent description:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=QWw…e+DHEA#PPA9,M1

DHEA + 6-OXO is already patented and proven to increase T and decrease E.

 
dinoiii’s retort:
There is a reason the patents were issued in the late 80s and 90s and nothing has really gone to market in the pharmaceutic world, even clinical trial.

Just getting a patent issued certainly doesn’t mean anything is “proven” - this is a complete pet peeve of mine, the “proven” in science thing. Here SERMs + DHEA have actually shown the contrary and 6-oxo in and of itself is partly pro-estrogenic.

It’s something about trading abstracts with one another on bb forums - oh well, I will oblige:
Am J Surg. 2003 May;185(5):411-5.
The effect of high dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate levels on tamoxifen blockade and breast cancer progression.Calhoun K, Pommier R, Cheek J, Fletcher W, Toth-Fejel S.
Oregon Health & Science University, Division of Surgical Oncology, 3181 SW Sam Jackson Park Rd. L223A, Portland, OR 97201, USA.

BACKGROUND: We investigated the stimulatory potential of dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEA-S) on tamoxifen-treated cells and assessed its effect on cancer progression in the adjuvant setting. METHODS: Mean serial serum levels of sex hormones from 44 patients receiving tamoxifen were correlated with follow-up status. T-47D (ER+/PR+) and HCC1937 (ER-/PR-) breast cancer cells were pretreated with 100 microM anastrozole, with or without tamoxifen, and stimulated with 22.8 microM DHEA-S. Rapid colorimetric assays allowed calculation of growth percent change. RESULTS: Clinically, development of metastatic disease correlated only with > or =90 microg/dL DHEA-S (P = 0.005). In vitro, T-47D cells stimulated with DHEA-S after anastrozole showed 35% increased growth. Addition of 0.01 nM tamoxifen demonstrated -7% inhibition. Increasing the DHEA-S/tamoxifen ratio reversed suppression to +25%. CONCLUSIONS: DHEA-S > or =90 microg/dL is a risk factor for recurrence in the adjuvant setting. In vitro, although tamoxifen inhibits cell growth at high doses it can be circumvented by DHEA-S. These results indicate that DHEA-S contributes to tamoxifen resistance and disease progression.

PMID: 12727558 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Well, tamoxifen resistance + support of upstream ability of DHEA converting to estrogen and tumor progression in ER (+) breast cancer.

1: Arch Surg. 2003 Aug;138(8):879-83. Links
Dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate causes proliferation of estrogen receptor-positive breast cancer cells despite treatment with fulvestrant.Calhoun KE, Pommier RF, Muller P, Fletcher WS, Toth-Fejel S.
Department of General Surgery, Oregon Health and Sciences University, Portland, OR 97201, USA.

HYPOTHESIS: Dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEA-S) causes a proliferation of estrogen receptor (ER)-positive breast cancer cells, even with tamoxifen citrate blockade. The ER antagonist ICI 182780 (fulvestrant) will more effectively stop the proliferative effect of DHEA-S on breast cancer cells. DESIGN: Examination of in vitro breast cancer cell growth in the presence of fulvestrant and DHEA-S. SETTING: Surgical oncology research laboratory. INTERVENTIONS: The ER-positive and ER-negative breast cancer cells were pretreated with fulvestrant and stimulated with 900 microg/dL (22.8 micromol/L) of DHEA-S. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Assays using 3-(4,5-dimethylthiazol-2-yl)-2,5-diphenyltet
razolium bromide, thiazolyl blue, were performed on the third, fifth, and seventh days poststimulation and permitted the calculation of growth percent change. RESULTS: The ER-positive and progesterone receptor-positive cells demonstrated universal proliferation of 107% by day 7 when treated with fulvestrant, regardless of the dose. The ER-negative and progesterone receptor-negative cells demonstrated growth inhibition. CONCLUSIONS: The DHEA-S circumvented fulvestrant inhibition and caused ER-positive breast cancer cell growth.

Oh ….and yes, I understand these were breast cancer cells…not what I am describing here - first is the ludicrousy of putting abstracts on message boards to support a plight, but these two DO show a couple of things…the overriding breast specificity of Estrogen in light of Tamox (which should be a select antagonist at the breast) when putting DHEA up to the charge AND offers further support for estrogen increases with DHEA administration. 
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Please stay tuned for the conclusion of these debates….they get BETTER!!!
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