Inside the Mind of Deserusan

Calling into question the one company that sets the standard for quality assurance is not something I would consider “well handled.” Natrol/Prolab will delay release of a reformulated product because they need to run six months of shelf stability tests so they can ensure you don’t get a clumpy product for starters.

It’s sad that the bar as been set so low on the forum that anyone getting busted for selling fake products who replies with “my bad” or some other weak excuse expediently gets a pass. Frankly, it shouldn’t even have to come to getting outed because they shouldn’t be selling fake or tainted supplements in the first place! Just the fact these actions get brushed aside so easily ensures that some other two bit operation will do the same thing. When it does, don’t say you weren’t warned.

If anyone wants to know what the Natural Products Association (formerly NNFA) is about have a read:

http://www.naturalproductsassoc.org/

This is industry gold standard for quality assurance beyond just cGMP.

A lot aren’t manufactured in cGMP facilities, especially the grey market products. In this case, the DHEA laden product was not produced in a cGMP facility because of the following:

Anyone claiming their non-DSHEA compliant grey market compounds are made in a cGMP facility are full of shit. Also, cGMP manufacturing requires all RAWS be tested as well as final products to be tested for all batches. As you can see, if the questionable supplement was produced in a cGMP facility mislabeled and misbranded products would not have made it to the consumer. It isn’t a problem with who they get their raw materials from as you can plainly see IF they are cGMP.

That’s why the big boys in in the industry pay good money to use cGMP facilities. It lowers your liability and the potential for such “screw-ups” immensely. If anyone really cares read the FDA’s ruling yourself. It’s enlightening and will certainly ellucidate why some of who are actually cGMP get so “pissy” when some claim they are and certainly are not.

http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~lrd/fr07625a.html

Any companies selling misbranded, mislabeled, and non-DSHEA compliant would be foolish to file a lawsuit in federal jurisdiction which is where these matters are handled. Beyond just the fact they are selling illegal dietary supplement in every sense of the law, the countersuit would be hard to overcome and most likely Uncle Sam would find cause for severe fining and possible criminal charges.

Anyone with a brain could easily apply the Lanham Act specifically section 43. You will see a company trying to sue members of Bodybuilding.com go down in flames because of this so get your marshmellows ready.

It gets good after this post and I must say those selling fake products should think twice before questioning industry leaders: http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=94821873&postcount=279

So it seems another company has been busted by Patrick Arnold for selling yet again another mislabeled steroidal compound. I?m not sure if a lot of you are aware, but two companies were also busted a few months ago selling fake ?epi-clones? or known to the more chemically inclined as 2a, 3a-epithio17a methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane or 2a, 3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol. Who cares if you taking unknown anabolics right?

What saddens me even more is that some are marketing this as an anti-estrogenic compound and bright enough to advertise this in major industry publication as being a highly anabolic with a great anabolic to androgen ratio. Frankly, I don?t know who is worse, the people allowing this to be sold on their websites or those irresponsible enough to sell this in the first place. We’ll save the full rant on this one for another time because the same company involved also sells research chemicals and is now using the Bodybuilding.com forums as a conduit for marketing for the “research” side too.

Anyway, yet another company has been busted this time for selling fake Methyl-1, 4-ADD (aka -Methyl-1, 4-Androstadiene-3, 17 Diol). The inventor of the steroid behind the infamous BALCO scandal, Patrick Arnold, has yet again uncovered another slithering snake trying to steal your hard earned dollars with an inferior product not delivering what its label claims. So what did the methyl-1, 4-ADD test out as? Dehydroepiandrosterone (aka DHEA, prasterone).

What’s funny about this same company trying to market DHEA as Methyl-1, 4-Androstadiene-3, 17 Diol is that they just showed up on day on the forums pimping products and looking members to represent their line. Did any question them? No. Even worse is that a moderator busted them using multiple screen names under the same IP address and once a few lame excuses were made all was forgiven. Will this just get forgotten as the thread exposing them gets buried? Probably.

A few weeks ago I ripped Steroid Nation author Shaun Assael pretty hard for falsely reporting the facts in trying to entrap Europa Sports for fodder to use in the ESPN article “To Catch a Seller”. However, the more I think about it, his perspective is not to be overlooked. There is absolutely NO quality assurance when it comes to what most online vendors sell. I?m not sure exactly what the process is for being carried on these are, but I must say it certainly doesn?t require that you at least prove your supplements contain what is claimed on the labels. It’s really sad to be honest and is a huge part of the reason why the industry as a whole is its own worse enemy.

I guess the moral of the story here is two fold. One, if you are thinking of buying a methyl-1, 4-ADD ask for proof its legitimate. If they can?t provide some shred of evidence as to the validity of their product then look elsewhere and be thankful chemist like Patrick Arnold are looking out for your wellbeing. Two, understand that just because a product is carried on a ?reputable? web retailer doesn?t mean its safe or even contains what the label claims. I know this may come as a shock, but most could give two shits about your health or welfare just as long as they get the sale instead of the other guy. That?s just the sad state of things and all I can do is shake my head at everyone profiting from it and too ignorant to see tell tale signs they are being ripped off.

If you are interested in finding out who the guilty party is please read the “call out” here:

 http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5455163

Methyltestosterone is very hepatoxic. However, dudes will do anything to get big including using this. I wonder if I shit in a bottle and call it FecalDrol or MethylTaint if it would sell well? I’m sure some of these no-ethic webtailers would surely sell it. Anyway, here is how to properly take this compound, in theory. I don’t endorse this at all but am also sick of getting questions about it.

Here’s a sample dosing protocol:

Week 1 - 5mg (per day)
Week 2 -  10mg
Week 3 - 10mg
Week 4 - 10mg

As far as a good OTC anti-e goes  6-OXO or Novedex XT would work fine. However, since you will experience shutdown  you will need a SERM to kickstart your own test production. I recommend  Toremifene for that as it is a step up from Nolva and well studied in men.  Here’s a sample PCT dosing protocol:

Day 1: Toremifene 120mg, 600mg 6-OXO  or 3-4 Novedex XT
Day 2: Toremifene 120mg, 600mg 6-OXO or 3-4 Novedex  XT
Day 3-7: Toremifene 80, 600mg 6-OXO or 3-4 Novedex XT
Day 8-14:  Toremifene 40mg, 400mg 6-OXO or 3-4 Novedex XT
Day 15-21: Toremifine 40mg,  400MG 6-OXO or 3-4 Novedex XT
Day 21-28: 200MG 6-OXO or 2 Novedex XT
Day  29-35: 200MG 6-OXO or 2 Novedex XT

*I’d also recommend running SAMe  (400mg) and Silymarin (600mg) per day throughout. You could also use some  7-OXO-DHEA throughout as well.

Anyway, don’t be that guy who turns yellow because he was drinking on cycle or decided to stack methyls. Your liver will thank you.